163: Transforming Doubt into Drive: Whitney Kilgore’s Path from Educator to Entrepreneur

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Hey everyone, how you doing
today?

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I have an incredible episode for
you.

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In this conversation, I sit down
with no other than Whitney

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Kilgore, the powerhouse
cofounder of I Design and a true

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champion for educators
everywhere.

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We talk about her inspiring
journey from the classroom to

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the forefront of instructional
design and educational

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technology.
Whitney opens up about what it

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was like navigating both K to 12
and higher Ed, the major shifts

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that happened during the
pandemic, and why now more than

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ever, educators deserve to have
their skills recognized and

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celebrated.
Suppose you're in the middle of

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a career pivot, trying to figure
out what's next or just need

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some encouragement.
In that case, this episode will

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remind you that your teaching
experience matters and that with

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the right community and support,
you can absolutely thrive in the

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world of learning design.
Let's dive in.

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Hello everyone and welcome to

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another fabulous episode of EDUP
LND.

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My name is Holly Owens and I'm
your host and I'm really

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excited.
I'm really honored.

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I'm really humbled to have this
guest on the show today.

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Whitney Kilgore is here.
Hi, Whitney.

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Hi, Holly, how are you?
Long time no talk.

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Long time no talk synchronously.
We talk asynchronously

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sometimes.
That's true.

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Yeah, well, I'm excited to have
you here and you for you to tell

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us about eye design and all the
different projects that you've

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been working on.
But first tell us a little bit

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about your story.
How did you become the Co

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founder?
You know all the different

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things that you're doing.
Tell us your story because we

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have a lot of people who are
looking to transition into this

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sector.
Fantastic.

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Thank you, Holly.
Gosh, it's funny.

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I remember using the phrase.
Let me make a long story longer

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go.
I got into education kind of

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accidentally and actually my
entire career has been somewhat

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the accidental step down the
path.

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But I was headed into Med
school.

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I thought for sure I was going
to go into the world of medicine

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and, and kind of a last minute
made a change into education.

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And it's been such a journey.
I, you know, I've taught first

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grade before I moved into higher
education, in case anybody

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didn't know.
And I really enjoyed working

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with six year olds.
It was Absolutely Fabulous.

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They're so creative in their
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And they just love life, right?
As adults, we sometimes get in

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our own way of finding joy.
And so I'm, I'm reminded of that

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occasionally, but, but after I
spent some time in the 1st grade

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classroom, I, I made the move
into instructional technology

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within a school district because
of course, I had all of my

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curriculum available online for
my 6 year old's parent.

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I mean, like it was the late
90s, early 2000s.

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I just assumed that was normal.
Yeah.

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But I was the nerdy kid that
went to computer camp when I was

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12 and computers were brand new.
So I've kind of always been on

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that tech journey.
I just didn't realize how much

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those worlds would collide and I
was recruited out of K12 into

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higher Ed to a company called
Sungard Higher Education, which

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is now a Lucian, and they had a
remote academic.

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I didn't know that that's what
it used to be called.

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No, that's brand new information
to me.

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That's awesome.
Wow.

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So I was on a remote academic
services team building online

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degree programs in higher Ed way
before it was cool.

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I mean, it was probably 2005
when I made that leap and I got

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the chance to go out to
universities all over the US and

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and help faculty understand how
they could embrace the

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affordances of the LMS in order
for their students to have

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opportunities that they wouldn't
have otherwise because they had

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kids and jobs and, you know,
couldn't make the track to.

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Campus, all the things.
Oh, the flexibility of an online

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offering just absolutely was the
sweet spot to allow them to

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advance their careers.
And so that's been the passion

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project that I've been focused
on for the last 20 years.

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And that journey led me to a lot
of places.

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I worked on campus at the
College of Southern Nevada out

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in Las Vegas for a couple of
years, and I was director of

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academic technology out there,
which also meant all classroom

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technology and computer labs
and, oh, by the way, the TV

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studio and, you know.
Whatever else they can add to

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the.
This falls under technology

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category, right?
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Events and video of everything,
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So it was just it was quite the
learning experience and then I

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made made the trip back to
Texas, right.

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So I left South Texas to go on
that journey to to Las Vegas.

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But we had family here and
children, little children that

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really miss their grandparents.
So we made the trek back to

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Texas, which landed me at
academic partnerships.

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Which is not.
I know we share that.

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And I, I am so lucky that I had
the opportunity to be a part of

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building programs then globally,
because I had the chance to

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build programs in Beijing and
Australia and the Philippines

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and Spain and the UK and all
over Latin America.

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So it couldn't have asked for a
better education all while

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getting my doctorate at UNT.
So I was doing that crazy

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travel.
And then I had all these

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synchronous sessions that were
at all times of the day and

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night.
I mean, if you've lived in the

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central time zone, they were
always at 7:00 PM, right?

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But if you're in the UK, it's
3:00 AM, let's it's time for

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class.
So yeah, I learned about a lot

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of things just by having those
experiences in life.

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And then one of my Co founders
at at I design and I actually

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worked together in academic
partnerships way back in the

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day.
And when he was ready to start

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the company, he asked me to go
on the journey.

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And I've never once hesitated or
looked back.

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This has been the adventure of a
lifetime.

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So oh.
My God, I love your story so

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much.
It's just like it just like the

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steps, like you're like in the
classroom and then you're in

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higher Ed and then you're going
international and then you're

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doing all these different
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It's really a great journey.
And I think the listeners really

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appreciate the fact that as
former educators, because I used

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to teach high school, that we
can make these journeys, that

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these things are possible.
And people don't realize how

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much like we don't stay in one
job anymore.

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The career isn't 30 to 40 years
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It's 30 to 40 years in various
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And hopefully you're, you're
going higher and higher or just,

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you know, following your
passion.

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So I really appreciate that
about your journey.

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And you know, The funny thing
that I didn't share is I'm still

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a haunted journey of like
personal discovery to.

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Yes.
And the adventure that we're on

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right now started about four
years ago.

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And I, I started out calling it
scope creep.

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We could, we got into yard work
during the pandemic, like a lot

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of people, right, right yard.
And so we decided to buy a piece

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of property, larger piece of
property, and started planting

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grapevines.
And so my husband and I, every

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night and every weekend for like
2 1/2 years, we were drilling

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holes in the dirt and setting
end posts and drilling tea posts

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into the ground.
And we now have a four acre

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vineyard up in North Texas and
grows 7 different varietals of

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of grapes.
And my husband is an assistant

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winemaker in the Texas Hill
Country and we have a little

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winery here on property and.
It's been.

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Such a fun adventure.
It's the joy thing I mentioned

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earlier with first graders.
I get now at this point in my

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life to watch adults.
Just pure unadulterated joy.

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But it's adults now.
Right, right, right.

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No, we need that so much as
adults.

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I think we focus a lot on work
and like paying bills and stuff,

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but gosh, that is unbelievable.
And I've watched your journey on

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Facebook and like building your
beautiful home and your vineyard

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and all the things.
And I'm like, that's what who I

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want to be like when I grow up.
How would it be like Whitney?

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Because it's so it's so
inspirational.

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Like you have this great way of
like balancing everything.

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And I know sometimes people,
especially listeners, can feel

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like, Oh my God, I, I'm, I'm
changing jobs or I'm having a

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baby or I'm doing this and it's
like it's super chaotic.

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But it seems like you found like
the right area personally and

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then professionally and it's
like all just coming together.

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I love that feeling.
I love it, so warm.

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Fuzzy, you got to create your
own balance, right?

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And it's funny, what we're doing
here doesn't feel like a side

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hustle.
It's like integrated into

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everything that we do.
The community that forms around

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a vineyard is actually sort of
interesting too.

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So friends and neighbors offer
all the time to help and to come

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out and and work out in the
vineyard.

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So it's just, it's amazing.
I think the the feeling that we

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have such close knit friends now
that want to spend time with us

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out there digging in the dirt,
right?

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I have a neighbor, she says it's
the best exercise ever.

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And it's not like I have to have
a gym membership.

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Exactly, exactly.
I can, I can imagine kind of

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gracious, that's a lot of manual
labor.

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But one of the things I want to
talk to you about is your

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journey with eye design and you
know, your Co founder, CEO, all

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those different things like
people who are transitioning

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teachers, they see themselves
and I've talked to a lot of

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them.
I'm sure you have too.

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And you have a very large
following out on LinkedIn.

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I want to mention that as well.
They feel like they have to jump

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back into the basics, like they
have to go back into this entry

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level coming outside the
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So I think one of the things I
want to ask you is, as a former

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educator, how did you feel
initially stepping out of the

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classroom?
And what are some of the things

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that you did to kind of elevate
yourself or like deal with that

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imposter syndrome?
Because that's huge when you

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come out of the classroom.
Yeah, I think there's an

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interesting, like fear of
failure that comes over a lot of

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us when we take that first
plunge into a different pool,

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right?
And the, you know, the old

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saying fake it till you make it
is helpful at times, right?

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But stage fright is real.
I was actually on a podcast

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yesterday and I had the gal who
was asking the questions get so

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nervous that she started
sweating.

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Just she was uncomfortable.
It was her first time hosting a

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podcast.
And all of us can be

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uncomfortable in certain
situations.

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And I think if you're willing to
lean in to the chaos and the,

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and the challenging situations
that we find ourselves in,

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sometimes those challenges come
with great reward and

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opportunity.
So there's like this overcoming

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fear piece, right?
It's, I think we call it

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imposter syndrome a lot, but
it's really our own

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physiological fear of success
and I think we've all got to get

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past that a little bit and I
know that's easier said than

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done.
And if.

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You let the steps that magically
appear in front of you.

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If you let yourself take those
steps forward, you'd be

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surprised where you'll end up.
Yeah, taking the risk for sure.

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I think it, you know, one of the
things I kind of preach to

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transitioning teachers is that
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teaching experiences because
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looking for a change in career.
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working with resume reviewers or
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about teaching, let alone
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that whole sector works.
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don't put your teaching stuff on
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breaks my heart because I'm
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for 15 to 20 years, you should
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You should not be erasing that
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So it really bothers me when I
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They're not going to like this.
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a teacher does?
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Claude twink wink Claude who
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academically by the way, right?
Claude is fantastic If you fed

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up your resume and asked it to
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experiences that you've had as
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posting.
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that you could unpack as a
teacher is tremendous, right?

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Being able to keep 30, sometimes
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planning an entire lesson for
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science aspects of what a
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Like, I think we we're under
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Is that the right thing?
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ourselves when we when we write
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So maybe that would help
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thinking about how to revamp
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I agree AI, AI has totally
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to transitioning roles and kind
of updating your professional

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materials.
So tell us a little bit about I

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Design for the audience that
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I Design.
What do you do there and what

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what's I design all about?
Oh, Holly, thank you.

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It is.
It is an incredibly wonderful

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organization.
We've been in business 12 years.

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Congratulations, that's amazing.
But we've built so many programs

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at this point, I've, I've kind
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It's been hundreds of
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we have the largest domestic
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humans, right?
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teachers too, and needed an
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design.
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partnered with universities to
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make sure that the program
vision, the outcomes that the

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students are supposed to
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students to be able to say about
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All of that gets captured at the
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single course so that we get a
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experience across the program.
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powerful from a creating student
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perspective while working with
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technology that might be new to
them or teaching where, you

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know, maybe all they did was
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instruction.
Right emergency remote teaching.

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Emergency remote teaching.
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Maybe they didn't embrace all
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have leveraged in order to
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asynchronous experiences for
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So we help with all of that, but
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business.
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ago, I'm like, oh wow, that's
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instructional design, but then
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healthcare related programs
solving a lot of challenges

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throughout the years.
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pandemic finding clinical
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tough.
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where they, we were supporting
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way from, you know, marketing
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to retention and coaching
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Ed.
A lot of first Gen. folks,

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right, going through programs.
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clinical placement problem too
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And so that's been huge for them
to be able to ensure that, you

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know, when they've got 1000
nurses going through their

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nursing programs, but there's a
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those nurses to do their
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So, yeah, so that's been really
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And then in the last four years
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So we have a curriculum mapping
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accreditation reporting with the
push of a button and are now

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using AI in instructional design
in really thoughtful ways.

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Still, from a programmatic view,
it's not like an AI course

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builder.
It, you know, there's one of

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those born every minute on the
Internet now.

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Yes, that's so true.
Programmatic design that

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leverages the power of AI and
our own reusable design objects

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and reusable build objects that
make the process so much easier

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and faster.
But better, right?

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Richer student experiences
because of those reusable design

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objects that we've created.
So again, another fun journey to

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be on is the evolution of iOS,
which has been tremendous.

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I love to hear it and I love to
hear the fact that, and I

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already knew this, that you're
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experience and you take it from
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You're not just saying, OK,
let's just start designing these

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courses.
You really take a look and

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evaluate what's happening and
what needs to change.

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You know, that's all that just
helps the students so much.

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community and the authenticness

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and realness.
You can have all the AI you

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want, you know, but there's
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human emotion and the human
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And like you said, there was a
huge challenge during COVID, so

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we had to figure out our way
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Like with the clinical stuff or
just, you know, at the end, I

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remember at the end of COVID,
there's like an article that

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came out like in the New York
Times or something that said

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online teaching failed or
something like that.

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And I'm like, you all don't even
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I got so upset when I read that
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I'm going to have to find it.
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not what we're talking about
when we're, we're considering

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instructional design in the
frameworks and the things that

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we do on the back end of things.
This is, you know, we literally

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just said move this online, put
this in the Google, you know,

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the Google Classroom or whatever
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And that there wasn't thought or
consideration behind how to do

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that.
It's kind of just when we call

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it an emergency, that means it
moved really fast.

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It was triage to go online,
which has its benefits but also

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has some huge disadvantages too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And you, you miss out as a
student, right?

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I mean, how many of us had
children at home during the

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pandemic, right?
So I would I had AI had a

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daughter that was in high school
and while I'm working she's on

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her computer having school right
on Webex and so she's laying in

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bed with her camera off and I
don't know did she learn

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anything.
I feel terrible for those

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younger students too.
Trying to or teachers for

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goodness sakes.
Right?

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Trying to hold the attention of
a bunch of 6 year olds to go

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back to my first grade days on
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much less a whole day.
I I really I can't imagine what

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that felt like to be a teacher
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And I'm so grateful for all
those educators that stuck it

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out and still are in classrooms
every day helping students be

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better then they could be if
they were sitting at home on

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Webex or Zoom.
Yeah, it was it was definitely

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some tough times.
And I know we learned a lot of

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different lessons out of COVID
and what to do and what not to

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do.
And I just think that people

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really need to understand and
like you're saying, give the

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teachers grace, give the
students grace 100%.

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Like that was not what they were
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Their expectations had to shift
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And who knows, like when that
hopefully doesn't happen again

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with a Covic type situation.
But what if something else

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happens, especially if we think
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You're in Texas, tornadoes.
I'm in Wilmington, there's

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hurricanes.
So when devastation or something

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like that happens, like what do
you do to make sure that people

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still have access and that
they're still able to learn and

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be social?
Like I think that's the one

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thing I missed.
It was so difficult to be stuck

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inside the house and not I had
to have a fever really bad.

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Like I wasn't getting out there
and talking to people.

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It was, it was crazy.
Yeah, yeah.

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Aren't we glad those days are
behind us now, though?

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Yes, we're so glad.
We're so glad I'm traumatized,

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but we're so glad.
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You're spot on when you start
thinking about disaster

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preparedness, right?
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot to

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that.
When I was out at the College of

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Southern Nevada, we were working
on those plans.

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What were we going to do in the
event of an emergency, right?

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So I think there are a lot of
institutions that actually think

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about online learning from that
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And that's actually the wrong
perspective to be thinking of it

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from, right it.
It shouldn't be an emergency

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situation where you would
consider online.

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It should be to benefit your
students for the greater good of

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them, society, the institution.
There's a lot of benefits to

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making your educational
experiences available in a

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variety of formats.
So but yeah, let's be forward

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thinking and student centered.
Yes, that's all.

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That's what the future is now,
you know, with all this, this AI

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stuff, I'm, I'm excited about to
see how this all integrates.

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One of the things I want to ask
you, since you have such a

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wonderful career journey and
like you've been in the

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classroom, you've been in higher
Ed, you, you own a business,

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you're an entrepreneur inside,
inside higher education and

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outside higher education, you
have your vineyard.

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We have a lot of transitioning
teachers or people who are just

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looking to make a change that
listen to the show.

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So if you could give them like 3
pieces of advice about how to

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transition out and, and what to
do.

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Like what are the ways that they
can just just do it, Like make

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the step, you know, overcome
the, the fear that that kind of

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thing.
I want to hear your what your

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three pieces of advice are.
Yeah, I think let's see three

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things.
One, continue your education

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like this journey in education
begins and ends with learning.

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Like you need to be a lifelong
learner and you need to be

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embracing the latest
technologies and and advancing

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your educational experiences.
So I'd say keep learning.

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It doesn't have to be for
credit, it doesn't have to be

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another degree, but some sort of
learning experience should be a

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part of your daily routine.
Network.

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LinkedIn is a great place to
network with other people.

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You think, Holly, I don't
remember where I saw that you

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were prepared or like you were
presenting at a conference

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overseas somewhere.
And I was fascinated by your

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post.
I remember this very vividly.

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And I wrote you and said, Oh my
gosh, you're the kind of person

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I really like to be around.
Can we connect sometime and have

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a coffee?
And I think networking is where

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some of the best connection
points for all of us or is

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found, whether it's virtual on
LinkedIn or it's in real in the

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real world.
And then the other career advice

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I would share is if you don't
feel like the opportunity is

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there for you to move up, then
move over.

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So and all, I mean career letter
wise, if you're not where you

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want to be yet, you may have to
move to another organization or

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entity, whether that's inside
education or external in order

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to continue your journey upward.
So never feel like there's a

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ceiling.
Just feel like, you know, what

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was that?
Chutes and ladders, right?

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But think mostly ladders.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Those are.
That's great advice.

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Very, very simple and actionable
tips of things that you can do

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right now if you're thinking
about transitioning into a

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different role or into the
learning and development space,

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Whitney is a great role model
for that and how to do it.

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So tell everyone in the audience
where they can find you, where

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they can connect with you, where
they can see eye design stuff,

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if they're interested in working
with you.

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Give us all.
Yeah, so the I Design website is

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I designedu.org.
Check it out.

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Lots of great stuff happening
there.

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If you're interested in learning
more about our aligned software,

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feel free to reach out to me.
My e-mail is

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whitney.kilgore@idesignedu.org.
I'm happy to answer questions

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about anything that we do.
And if you're wanting to

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network, you can catch me there
or find me on LinkedIn.

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I think my LinkedIn is Whitney
Kilgore.

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Yeah, on LinkedIn.
So try to be as easy to find as

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possible.
And I love connecting people

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with other people.
So if you've got something

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you're thinking about or excited
about, you know, let me know how

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how can I help you connect with
others that might be able to

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help you bring your dream to
reality, your vision to reality.

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Well, it's so great to to have
had you on the show now and

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reconnect with you.
And I can say that you're

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definitely one of the people I
look up to when it comes to like

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the journey in L&D.
And so I appreciate all that you

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share, all that you do.
And the fact that you are first

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grade teacher turned the CEO and
the Co founder is an amazing

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feat.
You should be very proud of that

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and I just love, I just love
chatting with you.

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It's just so easy and you really
break it down into simple stuff

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So what people can do.
So thank you so much for coming

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on the show and sharing your
experience with our audience.

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Thanks for having me on Holly,
it was quite the adventure.

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Yeah.
Hi, we're Ice Spring, an

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international team of e-learning
enthusiasts who helped more than

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60,000 clients across the globe
succeed with better online

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learning.
Our two flagship solutions are

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ispring Suite and ispringlearn
LMS ispring Suite is an

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intuitive all in one authoring
tool for creating engaging

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e-learning content, while
ispringlearn is an innovative

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online training platform for
onboarding, upskilling, and

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certifying your teams.
We'd be happy to get to know you

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and pick a solution that fits
your needs best.

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Go to www.ispringsolutions.com
to learn more about us and

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connect.
Thanks for spending a few

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minutes with Holly.
She knows your podcast queue is

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packed.
If today's episode sparked an

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idea or gave you that extra
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review helps more educators and
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going?
Connect with Holly on LinkedIn

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She reads every message.
Until next time, keep learning,

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keep leading, and keep believing
in your own story.

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Talk soon.